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Minutes of Board Meeting
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Thursday, September 18, 2008
Department of Housing and Community
Development
100 Community Place, Crownsville
Auxiliary Conference Room
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9:00 a.m.
Executive Session
9:30 a.m. Public Session |
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Hon. Robert R. Neall, Chair, Presiding for the
SHELRB
Sherry L. Mason, Senior Member, Presiding for
the SLRB
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Chairman Neall called the meeting to order at
approximately 9:35am. |
Membership Present:
SHELRB: Chairman Neall, Vice Chair Harriet
Cooperman, Members Leo Gant
and Sheldon Steinbach
SLRB: Senior Member Sherry Mason, Members Laird
Patterson, Homer La Rue
and Susie Jablinske
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1. Opening and welcome –Chairman Neall
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2. Approval of minutes of SHELRB
meeting January 15, 2008
Chairman Neall offered the minutes from the
most recent SHELRB meeting up for Board
approval.
Leo Gant
made a motion to approve the minutes
from the SHELRB meeting of January 15,
2008. The motion was seconded by Harriet
Cooperman. All members present voted in
favor of approving the minutes.
Approval of minutes of SLRB
meeting June 24, 2008
Senior member Sherry Mason offered the
minutes from the most recent SLRB meeting up
for Board approval. Homer La Rue
made a motion to approve the minutes
from the SLRB meeting of June 24, 2008. The
motion was seconded by Laird Patterson.
All members present voted in favor of
approving the minutes.
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3.
Chairman’s report for SHELRB / Senior member
report for SLRB
Chairman Neall declined
any report for the SHELRB and asked Sherry
Mason if she had anything to offer for the
SLRB. Ms.
Mason offered a brief
remembrance for Allen Siegel, friend,
comrade, and past interim chair of the
SLRB. Ms. Mason noted
Mr. Siegel’s passing in
late July, and stated that he would be
missed. Silent motions of agreement came
from all Board
members, SLRB and SHELRB
alike, and staff as well.
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- Executive Director’s report
Following remembrance of Mr. Siegel,
SHELRB chairman Neall asked Executive
Director Erica Snipes if she wished to
give her report, or move directly to the
proposed regulations that would be
before both Boards during this meeting.
Ms. Snipes indicated that the Boards
should consider the proposed regulations
first and then move to the
administrative and day to day matters of
information she had to share. Ms.
Snipes suggested that since the SHELRB
had fewer regulations to consider, that
Board should proceed to the regulations
first.
Ms. Snipes noted that the
proposed regulation before the SHELRB
was worked on extensively by Board staff
and the parties that had requested its
consideration. She noted that the
proposed regulation focused on the
practices required for ratification of a
Memorandum of Understanding and invited
the Board’s discussion and
consideration.
SHELRB Vice-Chair, Harriet
Cooperman offered one amendment to the
proposal as it was presented. (Note:
Copies of the proposed regulation were
available for the public at this meeting
and had been posted for some time on the
Board’s website) Ms. Cooperman
suggested that proposed language at
COMAR 14.30.09 should read “…copy of
the terms of the agreement…” instead
of “copy of the agreement” as the
proposal was presented. Ms. Cooperman
noted that it was more than highly
unusual that a full Collective
Bargaining Agreement would be ready for
the inspection of unit members so early
in the ratification process. The Board
members discussed Ms. Cooperman’s
proposed amendment and ended in
agreement with it. Board member
Sheldon Steinbach made a motion that
the proposal, with Ms. Cooperman’s
amendment, be approved and published as
a proposed regulation in the Maryland
Register. Harriet Cooperman and Leo
Gant simultaneously seconded the
motion. All Board members present voted
in its favor and Chairman Neall declared
the motion to have carried.
Chairman Neall asked Ms. Snipes to
proceed with the SLRB regulations at
that time. Ms. Snipes indicated that
the SLRB members should first consider
the regulation with identical language
to the regulation that the SHELRB had
just considered. It would be placed at
COMAR 14.32.06.03. Ms. Snipes requested
that in addition, the members of the
SLRB consider whether the amendment made
by Ms. Cooperman for the SHELRB was
something the SLRB would want as well.
Ms. Snipes also noted additional
language regarding negotiability that
was also offered within this particular
section of proposals. Ms. Mason, Senior
Member of the SLRB indicated that she
did wish to consider Ms. Cooperman’s
amendment, and offered the regulation,
with Ms. Cooperman’s amendment, up for
full SLRB discussion. Homer La Rue
moved that the regulation involving
additional information on Negotiability
and detailing certain requirements for
the ratification of a Memorandum of
Understanding, to be incorporated in to
SLRB regulations at COMAR 14.32.06, be
approved for publication as a proposal
in the Maryland Register. Laird
Patterson seconded the motion, and
all Board members present voted in its
favor. Ms. Mason declared the motion to
have carried and asked Ms. Snipes for
the next regulation proposed.
Ms. Snipes asked the Board
members to consider a proposal at COMAR
14.32.01.05 that would make a timeline
for service exception due to
requirements of a later regulation (one
that would be proposed today), as well
as change the mailing addition (3 days
for US Mail filing) from business days
to calendar days, which was more
appropriate. Ms. Mason asked the Board
members for their consideration of this
proposal. Laird Patterson made a
motion to approve the proposal for
publication as proposed in the Maryland
Register. Susie Jablinske
seconded the motion. All Board members
present voted in favor, and Ms. Mason
declared the motion to have carried.
Ms. Snipes next noted the final proposed
regulation was one that related to the
passage of amendments to the Collective
Bargaining Statute that detail the
process by which employees may opt out
of having their addresses and a number
of other pieces of information shared
with the unit’s exclusive
representative, who may request the
information twice per year. Ms. Snipes
noted that the parties most affected by
this proposed regulation had worked
quite hard on its provisions and there
was only one area in which there was
still disagreement: whether the cost
that the employer may charge an
exclusive representative for the
information requested was to be the cost
of providing the list of the information
or the cost of compiling the
information. Ms. Snipes noted that
there may be members of the public at
the meeting that wished to comment on
this disagreement and the Board may wish
to wait until hearing from those people
before it reached a final decision
regarding this regulation.
Assistant Attorney General,
Jonathan Krasnoff, went through some of
the particulars of this small area of
contention, and after his comments, the
Board members, lead in discussion by
member Homer La Rue, decided to wait on
a final decision regarding this
regulation until they had heard public
comment about it. After this decision,
Ms. Snipes continued with the
administrative details of her meeting
report.
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A. ALRA Conference in Oakland CA :
July 2009
Ms. Snipes noted that she is on the
professional development committee for this
year’s conference, and as such, is involved
in working on the educational and practical
portions of the presentations.
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LERA (Labor and Employment Relations
Association)
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C.
Introduction of new Assistant Attorney
General
Ms. Snipes introduced Joseph Pokempner as
the newest Assistant Attorney General that
would be representing and counseling both
the SLRB and the SHELRB. Ms. Snipes noted
that Mr. Pokempner was not unknown to a few
members of the Boards and was also well
known and respected in the labor/employment
advocate’s community. Ms. Snipes welcomed
Mr. Pokempner and indicated she was very
pleased to have him on board as the new
Assistant Attorney General. Jonathan
Krasnoff, the interim Assistant Attorney
General from the Department of Labor,
Licensing and Regulation who had been
filling in as the Boards’ temporary legal
counsel, also spoke very highly of Mr.
Pokempner, noting that the Boards were
particularly lucky to have him as their
counsel, given his wealth of experience and
knowledge of labor issues. Both Boards
welcomed Mr. Pokempner.
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Continuing Business |
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Regulations
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As per the discussion above, proposed
regulations for both the SLRB and the SHELRB
were considered prior to the Executive
Director’s administrative report. Ms.
Snipes, however, did note that more members
of the public were present at the meeting
than had been present during the Boards’
discussion regarding the various proposals
that had been accepted. Ms. Snipes asked
that the SHELRB briefly go over their single
proposal, including the amendment made by
Ms. Cooperman, and that the SLRB do the
same.
Chairman Neall asked Ms.
Cooperman to go over the regulation
(14.30.09, as described above) and her
proposed change, which she did. She then
looked out to the members of the public in
attendance and asked if there were any
questions or comments. Linda McKeegan of
Kahn, Smith & Collins, representing the
American Federation of State County, and
Municipal Employees (AFSCME) asked if she
might speak. Chairman Neall motioned her
forward.
Ms.
McKeegan noted that she had no problem with
the change and that indeed the Memorandum of
Understanding that would be available for
viewing by the unit members prior to a
ratification vote, would be a draft copy
that would be prepared and presented in
final form after the ratification. Ms.
McKeegan noted that Hillary Davis,
representing MCEA (Maryland Classified
Employees Association), may well have
objected to the change, as it had seemed
important to her that the MCEA membership
that was part of the various higher
education as well as state units see the
actual contract, but noted that AFSCME had
no objection to the amendment offered by Ms.
Cooperman. Ms. McKeegan noted that Ms.
Davis may be agreeing to drop a current
lawsuit pending before the Board after this
regulation is passed. As the language of
the proposal before the SHELRB, and the
amendment offered by Ms. Cooperman was
identical to the proposal before the SLRB
(including the amendment), the SLRB
membership joined with that of the SHELRB in
supporting the earlier motions that the
proposals
be advanced in the
publication process through the Maryland
Register. Chairman Neall of the SHELRB and
Sherry Mason, senior member of the SLRB,
indicated that both motions would stand.
Following the discussion on
14.30.09 (SHERLB) and 14.32.06.03 (SLRB) Ms.
Mason also reiterated the acceptance of the
proposed change at 14.32.01.05, regarding
the service and filing requirements for the
SLRB.
Ms. Mason then asked the
membership of the SLRB to return to
consideration of the proposal at 14.32.08.
Member Homer La Rue asked if there were
members of the public that wished to comment
on this proposal to assist the Board in
considering its provisions. Ms. McKeegan
again asked to speak on behalf of AFSCME,
and Ms. Mason motioned her to begin.
Ms.
McKeegan began by presenting what she
understood to be the process for the
Department of Budget and Management (DBM) to
provide the employee information that the
exclusive representative, in many cases
AFSCME, was requesting. Ms. McKeegan
indicated that the main problem in charging
the exclusive representative with the cost
of “compiling” the employee information, was
that AFSCME was unclear on how much the
union would be charged and for what
particular activities, and that she needed
more information from DBM, particularly when
DBM had brought the Comptroller’s Office
into the process by getting various employee
lists from that office. Ms. McKeegan noted
concern with ethics issues in compiling with
the statute, and that AFSCME and the other
unions who represent the various state
employee units, will work on this issue
together. Ms. McKeegan noted that she’d
worked with Kris Hoffman, the Assistant
Attorney General who represents DBM, on how
to make this request for information work
with the state abilities to provide it and
that they would continue to work together on
this.
As Ms. McKeegan was speaking,
Ms. Hoffman herself walked into the meeting
room, apologized for her lateness, and also
introduced Cindy Kollner, of DBM, who
accompanied Ms. Hoffman to the meeting. Ms.
Mason welcomed them and asked if they had
anything to add. Ms. Hoffman and Ms.
Kollner presented information that DBM
doesn’t have any database of the information
that the unions would be requesting, and is
in the process of trying to get the
technology to create such a database, but
they didn’t know how far our they were in
terms of getting the system implemented.
Ms. Kollner speculated that it could be a
years long process. Ms. Hoffman supported
her argument that the union should be
charged with the cost of compiling the
information as it was not information that
was at the state’s immediate access to
provide. Ms. McKeegan indicated that the
two sides were continuing to work on this
process. Board member Homer La Rue asked
AFSCME and DBM whether they had a timeline
in which they could work out a language
solution for the proposed regulation. Ms.
McKeegan indicated that it would be as soon
as they could, perhaps in the next two to
three weeks.
Board member
Susie Jablinske asked if she might make a
note of something, and Ms. Mason asked her
to continue. Ms. Jablinske noted that
there is language in the statue dealing with
this issue and stated that the language in
the statute should be what is adopted in the
proposal. Mr. La Rue indicated that
alternatively, the entire proposal could be
tabled and re-proposed at the Board’s next
meeting, after the parties have had the
opportunity for further work on the
language. Ms. Snipes, requesting permission
to speak, noted that the Board could table
the particular provision of the proposed
regulation that was the problem, but adopt
the remaining portion. The Board members
discussed this issue, but member Homer La
Rue renewed his idea that the proposal, in
its entirety, should be tabled, so the
parties are free in their discussion and
work on the language, to deal with the
regulation as a whole and not be forced away
from other areas of discussion because the
Board proposed particular language. Mr.
La Rue moved that the proposal at
14.32.08 be tabled until the next meeting,
so that the parties may have better
opportunity to work with the language.
Laird Patterson seconded the motion.
All members voted in favor and Ms.
Mason declared the motion to have carried.
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Announcement of administrative
determinations or Board decisions and orders, as
appropriate:
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Ms. Snipes noted that there were none to
report at this time. |
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Issues arising from the elections,
negotiations, investigations, and cases pending
before OAH:
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Ms. Snipes noted that
there are no SHELRB cases before OAH at this
time.
For the SLRB, Ms. Snipes noted that Case ULP
08-U-06 is up for a hearing before OAH on
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New Business
proposed by members of the Board or staff
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Ms. Snipes indicated
that there was no new business from staff to
present that hadn’t been discussed already
at the meeting. Chairman Neall of the
SHELRB indicated his preference that for the
next meeting, the SHELRB at least, should
meet at its own offices. Ms. Snipes noted
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Meeting calendar
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Proposed
meeting calendar: Remainder of Calendar
Year 2008
December 11, 2008 (SHELRB)
December 4, 2008 (SLRB)
Ms. Jablinske of the
SLRB indicated her difficulty with the
December 4 date, and Ms. Snipes noted that
these dates are merely placeholders and if
the date needs to be changed, we can do that
at a later point.
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Public comment. |
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The individuals who had commented on the
regulations earlier were noted on the
record.
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Adjournment
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There was a unanimous
motion for adjournment at approximately
10:55 by membership of both Boards, as well
as a unanimous second. The motion to
adjourn carried.
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